Websites and SCAMMERS & SPAMMERS

Being an Internet based company we have learned all too well that the Internet is full of scams and spammers.

We launched Buzztrader.com at considerable cost back in 2004 and with the immense popularity of a website with millions of visitors we were flooded with scammers.

Anytime you have a website with the potential for a scammer to make money, they will appear out of the woodwork like cockroaches.

At first we thought our business model was flawed, we were offering free ads for selling cars. Maybe if we charged for the ads the scammers would go away because they wont spend money paying for ads.

But that made it worse, because now they were placing ads with stolen credit cards. What a mess.

The value to Scammers

The value to scammers was they could advertise a $20,000 car for $5000 and some idiot will think they are taking this unsuspecting car owner for a ride. But in fact, there is no car, so when the buyer pays $5000 via western union the money is gone, usually to Nigeria.

This type of scam has never gone away and is still very popular today. It took us out f the classified market because the resources to manage all the scammers was more than the websites could ever produce in value.

Once they started using stolen credit cards there was no way to control them and they were jepardizing our ability to collect credit cards because of course VISA & MC assume you are doing it yourself and they don't car who is scamming you.

So we went back to all FREE ads to avoid losing our merchant processing contracts.

The other Side of the SCAM

Then we have to deal with the other side of the scam, the idiot that sent a check to Nigeria for $5,000 thinking there were getting a $50,000 car shipped to them.

Or the car sellers that were shipping cars with checks from Nigeria or just on fake banks. People were losing tens of thousands of dollars right in front of our faces and there was nothing we could so.

Once seller called me to ask if the buyer was scamming them because he was paying $10,000 for a $5000 car and the seller just needed to send $2000 to the shipper and keep the extra $3000 for the effort.

I told him it was a scam but the seller said, it was too good a deal to pass up and he needed the money.

And guess how this all played out as if you don't already know.

  • The seller gets a check for $10,000 and deposits it in his bank

  • 2 days later he checks hs account and it is cleared

  • The seller send $2000 to the shipper via Western Union

  • 10 days later the bank contacts the seller and tells him the check was fake

  • The police now arrest the seller for fraud on the bank

Oh, yes, people are going to jail for being victims of scammers, it is really bad.

That is just my experience with the used car market, it gets worse o some of the other sites.

The we have the SPAMMERS!

These are the guys that just relentlessly send spam and use every technique every flaw in the email system and every mistake website owners make to send as much email as possible.

We watch web forms get exploited so we added CAPTCHA (the number and letters you type to submit forms) but still spammers would fill out forms and send spam.

We used to have default mail forwarding but spammers would make up hundreds of email addresses at a single domain hoping some of them would be good, in the case of defaults all the spam was delivered.

Customers called us with thousands of emails in their inbox.

Of course, they expect us to solve the problem like we sent them or something!

What was my response? "Welcome to the INTERNET".

This is a fact we have to deal with every day as does every website owner. So what should you do?

  • Check all sales and validate the buyer

  • use mail systems with good mail filters

  • don't respond to offers that are too good to be true

Validate Buyers

If you get a sale, it wont kill you to make a hone call make sure the sale is legit and that you can ship it. If you mail out a diamond ring based on an online order there is a good chance that it is from a stolen credit card and you will lose the money.

Use delivery confirmations so that you have an address and a signature to verify that a real person accepted the goods and require that it be the same person that had the name on the credit card.

Email Filters

If you use systems like Hotmail, Gmail or Ymail they have pretty good filters to help with spam. Sometimes too good and you lose important mil as well.

But if you use a pop account at a small ISP chances are they have very little in place to filter spam so you will get more of it ad maybe more than you can even manage.

If it looks too good to be true, it probably is

If you have a store and your sales are slow, when someone says they are a buyer from a big store, that is exciting. But when they tell you they will pay for the order and you will refund part of the sale back to them, you know there is a problem.

There are many ways people get caught, but it all comes down to being greedy and no wanting to lose one sale that is too good to be true.

If it smells like a fish it is probably a fish.

Just use common sense and make good decisions.

Good customers online

There are more good customers than bad ones, so there is plenty of money to be made with websites. But you need to run it like any other business, carefully.

We have to deal with scammers still today setting up fake car dealer websites and fake stores to scam people. For us, they usually use stolen credit cards and even we get scammed.

So we have to validate each new sign up, call them talk to them and make sure they have a legit business.

Yes, it is extra work and costs us time and money but without a good plan to deal with scammers and spammers you will fail.

Spammers have irritated companies like AOL crashing their mail servers with spam, spamming their chatrooms and harassing their users.

So don't feel like you are special or they are targeting you individually. The target everyone and everything.

If you are online, you are a target. So don't paint an X on your back, stay low, use good practices and you can avoid most of the fall out.

 

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